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    You can never trust a jolio for truth, he cites an anti Semetic site whose publisher writes from Dubai.
    Yet it's supposed to be for American Veterans.

    Here's more

    James Wall, Debbie Menon and Veterans Today's new anti-Semitic site-Update




    On April 17th 2012, I wrote an article on the anti-Semitic site Veterans Today. My intention was to clearly define VT’s bent toward anti-Semitic bigotry. Among other issues, I pointed to one of the more bizarre quotes by VT’s chairman Gordon Duff:

    Federal Reserve” means “Rothschild.” “Rothschild” means poverty, hunger, ignorance and, most of all, war. This is all you really need to know. Everything else, the Pentagon, Wall Street, the corporate news, congress, the Supreme Court, the arms industry bandits are nothing but their henchmen, cowards and thieves that sold their souls for cash, the perception of power and vice.

    The site has even published an article suggesting that Jewish Rabbis should be hung.[1]
    In the posting, Veterans Today: Against the Jewish people, against Christians, and against veterans, I listed some sister sites, and individuals who both write for VT and uphold their deplorable ideology. James Wall, former editor of Christian Century, is an individual whose posts at his blog, Wallwritings, has often been published on VT. And Wall has publically approved Gordon Duff.

    Another person I pointed to is Debbie Menon who blogs at My Catbird Seat and lives in Dubai in the United Arab Emirates. I was later to note that Menon seemed to have parted company with VT because she was no longer listed there and Gordon Duff was no longer listed on her site, although both sites were still using the same writers and articles.
    I have now found that VT is maintaining another site linked to on their friendlier Veterans Today Network. One can either click on a banner sometimes displayed at the top of VTN or click on a link at the bottom of the page, in tiny print, to go to Veterans News Now.Com.

    Much of the material placed on Veterans News Now.Com is as anti-Semitic as the original material on the Veterans Today Site. What is different is that Wall, has now been welcomed as an associate editor and one of the writers. He has undoubtedly been an associate for about a year. Debbie Menon is now the Editor in Chief, one of the managing editors, and one of the writers. Many of the persons on the VNN editorial board are also involved with Veterans Today. Gordon Duff is seemingly not a part of the VNN—at least he is not mentioned as a member of the editorial board. But why is all of this important?

    First of all, Wall as a past editor of Christian Century has developed some credibility, and now he not only uses material from VT, he is associated with the vile site. He helps make decisions about the articles posted to that site. Wall is a person whose writings are often used by a denominational organization, Israel/Palestine Mission Network of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.); on their twitter page they often link to his articles.

    Secondly, since Menon, who lives in Dubai, is in charge of VNN’s editorial board one might wonder how she could possibly be helpful to citizens including veterans of the United States? In fact, her position with VT leaves open all kinds of questions. For instance how can someone who is supposed to be concerned about American Veterans allow such drivel as in an article such as “Earth’s alpha predator: Zionist Mafia” written by Rand Clifford? Here is one quote:

    Before 9/11 birthed the “Global War on Terror” (GWOT) to aim American blood and treasure at Israel’s enemies, 189 of Earth’s 196 recognized “sovereign” nations had a Rothschild-controlled central bank. Afghanistan, Libya, Sudan, Iran, Cuba, Iraq, and North Korea were those last seven nations resisting Rothschild enslavement.

    Now, only Cuba, North Korea, and Iran remain free. Notice how high Iran and North Korea are on our list of enemies?

    One might also ask, why would the former editor of Christian Century, James Wall, allow such material to be published? And why would any denominational organization link to Wall’s writings knowing his relationship to Veterans Today and Veterans News Now. Com?

    Update, there is now more information at Snapshots a Camera blog & Stand Firm

    [1] Someone asked about a link to the Rabbi's hung statement. I have not been able to find it but here is the source, J. Bruce Campbell, and one of his articles, "Resistance: No Warrant No Entry No Knock No Mercy" at http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/06/22/the-resistance/ A quote from the article, "to establish a defense against Jewish aggression, the underlying cause of America’s decline. Eliminate Jewish involvement in government, media, law, medicine and education and declare the rabbinical class a national enemy." There are many such statements by the same author at VT.




    jolio stop the copy paste from rubbish sites.


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    Sam, you can be very condescending, although I don't think you really mean to be, it's just in your nature.

    I don't know where you get this idea that because I'm Canadian I have no understanding of what is transpiring south of the border. Maybe you think we Canadians are only interested in hunting moose, shoveling snow and ensuring we have enough whale oil to heat and light our igloos.You do realize that America's international borders are not protected by a force field which does not allow information to escape it?

    Forget the videos Sam, there are streams of videos on youtube with Trump inciting the crowds issuing, what you call, idle threats.

    You have to understand that I, too, have little use for career politicians but Trump? This man has no tact and simply panders to what he feels the people want to hear.

    You say I am avoiding answering your queries, well I'm waiting for you to answer the one question I put forward ... Why hasn't policy been debated in any of the debates?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samaritan View Post
    You can never trust a jolio for truth, he cites an anti Semetic site whose publisher writes from Dubai.
    Yet it's supposed to be for American Veterans.

    Here's more

    James Wall, Debbie Menon and Veterans Today's new anti-Semitic site-Update




    On April 17th 2012, I wrote an article on the anti-Semitic site Veterans Today. My intention was to clearly define VT’s bent toward anti-Semitic bigotry. Among other issues, I pointed to one of the more bizarre quotes by VT’s chairman Gordon Duff:

    Federal Reserve” means “Rothschild.” “Rothschild” means poverty, hunger, ignorance and, most of all, war. This is all you really need to know. Everything else, the Pentagon, Wall Street, the corporate news, congress, the Supreme Court, the arms industry bandits are nothing but their henchmen, cowards and thieves that sold their souls for cash, the perception of power and vice.

    The site has even published an article suggesting that Jewish Rabbis should be hung.[1]
    In the posting, Veterans Today: Against the Jewish people, against Christians, and against veterans, I listed some sister sites, and individuals who both write for VT and uphold their deplorable ideology. James Wall, former editor of Christian Century, is an individual whose posts at his blog, Wallwritings, has often been published on VT. And Wall has publically approved Gordon Duff.

    Another person I pointed to is Debbie Menon who blogs at My Catbird Seat and lives in Dubai in the United Arab Emirates. I was later to note that Menon seemed to have parted company with VT because she was no longer listed there and Gordon Duff was no longer listed on her site, although both sites were still using the same writers and articles.
    I have now found that VT is maintaining another site linked to on their friendlier Veterans Today Network. One can either click on a banner sometimes displayed at the top of VTN or click on a link at the bottom of the page, in tiny print, to go to Veterans News Now.Com.

    Much of the material placed on Veterans News Now.Com is as anti-Semitic as the original material on the Veterans Today Site. What is different is that Wall, has now been welcomed as an associate editor and one of the writers. He has undoubtedly been an associate for about a year. Debbie Menon is now the Editor in Chief, one of the managing editors, and one of the writers. Many of the persons on the VNN editorial board are also involved with Veterans Today. Gordon Duff is seemingly not a part of the VNN—at least he is not mentioned as a member of the editorial board. But why is all of this important?

    First of all, Wall as a past editor of Christian Century has developed some credibility, and now he not only uses material from VT, he is associated with the vile site. He helps make decisions about the articles posted to that site. Wall is a person whose writings are often used by a denominational organization, Israel/Palestine Mission Network of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.); on their twitter page they often link to his articles.

    Secondly, since Menon, who lives in Dubai, is in charge of VNN’s editorial board one might wonder how she could possibly be helpful to citizens including veterans of the United States? In fact, her position with VT leaves open all kinds of questions. For instance how can someone who is supposed to be concerned about American Veterans allow such drivel as in an article such as “Earth’s alpha predator: Zionist Mafia” written by Rand Clifford? Here is one quote:

    Before 9/11 birthed the “Global War on Terror” (GWOT) to aim American blood and treasure at Israel’s enemies, 189 of Earth’s 196 recognized “sovereign” nations had a Rothschild-controlled central bank. Afghanistan, Libya, Sudan, Iran, Cuba, Iraq, and North Korea were those last seven nations resisting Rothschild enslavement.

    Now, only Cuba, North Korea, and Iran remain free. Notice how high Iran and North Korea are on our list of enemies?

    One might also ask, why would the former editor of Christian Century, James Wall, allow such material to be published? And why would any denominational organization link to Wall’s writings knowing his relationship to Veterans Today and Veterans News Now. Com?

    Update, there is now more information at Snapshots a Camera blog & Stand Firm

    [1] Someone asked about a link to the Rabbi's hung statement. I have not been able to find it but here is the source, J. Bruce Campbell, and one of his articles, "Resistance: No Warrant No Entry No Knock No Mercy" at http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/06/22/the-resistance/ A quote from the article, "to establish a defense against Jewish aggression, the underlying cause of America’s decline. Eliminate Jewish involvement in government, media, law, medicine and education and declare the rabbinical class a national enemy." There are many such statements by the same author at VT.
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    jolio stop the copy paste from rubbish sites.



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    Not condescending Greg you come across as a superior when you obviously are not in the picture at all.
    You do not know what the American people are feeling at this moment because you Greg are simply not one.
    No matter how much TV you watch or newspapers you read or what you glean from the net you will always be in this respect the Catholic at the Bar Mitzvah so let's not pretend you are otherwise.
    As I politely explained to you that the Republican establishment did not get what is going on, one should hardly expect a Canadian, the Canadian newspapers or their other media sources to understand the phenomenon of what has transpired in the last decades in regard to the frustrations of what is going on here.
    Trump and Cruz are the anti establishment Republicans they represent what people think that is counter to establishment Republican policy.
    You wish to focus on something that was said in haste, bad judgment or in jest i could not care less, nor the base of the American people.
    If they did Greg they would like the anti-Trump American media focus on another non story of Trumps disavowed KKK.
    Your issue is a non starter and I have painstakingly made the point, but you are here again with the third plea.
    You I see have an agenda.
    Trump incites the crowd ..a fat NO to that Greg I see you truly don't get it at all.
    From six to sundown I answered who Trump is and you have been given your answers to his policies and that's not good enough for you.
    Stick to what you know Greg because when it comes to reading the mindset of America right now you are clueless.
    Who would claim to be that, who was not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jolio View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samaritan View Post
    Not condescending Greg you come across as a superior when you obviously are not in the picture at all.
    You do not know what the American people are feeling at this moment because you Greg are simply not one.
    No matter how much TV you watch or newspapers you read or what you glean from the net you will always be in this respect the Catholic at the Bar Mitzvah so let's not pretend you are otherwise.
    As I politely explained to you that the Republican establishment did not get what is going on, one should hardly expect a Canadian, the Canadian newspapers or their other media sources to understand the phenomenon of what has transpired in the last decades in regard to the frustrations of what is going on here.
    Trump and Cruz are the anti establishment Republicans they represent what people think that is counter to establishment Republican policy.
    You wish to focus on something that was said in haste, bad judgment or in jest i could not care less, nor the base of the American people.
    If they did Greg they would like the anti-Trump American media focus on another non story of Trumps disavowed KKK.
    Your issue is a non starter and I have painstakingly made the point, but you are here again with the third plea.
    You I see have an agenda.
    Trump incites the crowd ..a fat NO to that Greg I see you truly don't get it at all.
    From six to sundown I answered who Trump is and you have been given your answers to his policies and that's not good enough for you.
    Stick to what you know Greg because when it comes to reading the mindset of America right now you are clueless.
    What you don't seem to get is American politics affects Canada greatly. We're not just that country north of the border, trade, commerce as well as political agendas have an affect here. So yes, many of us do pay close attention to American politics.

    I'm not focused on Trump's idiotic statements. It appears that you have focused on having me appear to be focused on them when what I'm focused on is getting an answer to why policy has not been debated on any televised Republican debates? Why is it every time somebody tries to begin just such a debate do they revert to name calling and insults?

    You think Canadians aren't tired of the career politician in the same fashion Americans are? We have three main parties here, right, left and slightly more left of left. The majority of us vote for what we consider the lesser of the three evils. For 10 years we had a Conservative government until the majority of Canadians decided to actually vote it out. We finally grew tired of corporate conservatism.

    Look, we all want politicians that are politicians who represent the people, Trump is not that person.
    "No need to say more...I, for one, do not care one iota about being politically correct, I do call it as I see it without no fear, and those who get their feeling hurt by such truth I say to them:
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    Every piece of this is man's bullshit. They call this war a cloud over the land. But they made the weather and then they stand in the rain and say 'Shit, it's raining!'

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigwinnman View Post
    What you don't seem to get is American politics affects Canada greatly. We're not just that country north of the border, trade, commerce as well as political agendas have an affect here. So yes, many of us do pay close attention to American politics.

    I'm not focused on Trump's idiotic statements. It appears that you have focused on having me appear to be focused on them when what I'm focused on is getting an answer to why policy has not been debated on any televised Republican debates? Why is it every time somebody tries to begin just such a debate do they revert to name calling and insults?

    You think Canadians aren't tired of the career politician in the same fashion Americans are? We have three main parties here, right, left and slightly more left of left. The majority of us vote for what we consider the lesser of the three evils. For 10 years we had a Conservative government until the majority of Canadians decided to actually vote it out. We finally grew tired of corporate conservatism.

    Look, we all want politicians that are politicians who represent the people, Trump is not that person.
    The American People want their country back.
    Americans don’t support Obamacare and they don’t want illegal immigration, they are tired of idiocy of foreign policy to name a few.
    What this has to do with Canada, absolutely nothing. We don’t elect POTUS to please or annoy Canada or you. We elect POTUS for Americans and sometimes they are tragic mistakes such as Jimmy Carter and Obama both incompetents.
    Honestly Greg I don’t like your Trudeau but you folks elected him. As far as the Canadian stereotype lol that may be some who think that but I don’t I have traveled there weeks as a little boy and a High School Senior so stow it “eh”.
    Why is policy not debated answer is easy the Networks and moderators get better ratings with fireworks that’s ratings and that means big money.
    “Look, we all want politicians that are politicians who represent the people, Trump is not that person.” That’s your opinion when and if you become a citizen of the United States, then what you think and vote for counts otherwise it’s just your opinion.


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    Trump is the true representative of the three evils ( Evil trinity ) = KKK + Nazism + Zionism

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    Just when I thought I've read it all then ^ post comes along.

    If anything is as conflicting as that post I would just give up on the internet completely. LMAO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3weysiyeh View Post
    Just when I thought I've read it all then ^ post comes along.

    If anything is as conflicting as that post I would just give up on the internet completely. LMAO.
    Perhaps being as ambiguous as you are, as subject-less as you are you should give up on the Internet entirely.

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