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    Default Another proof the ISIS is Iranian made.

    Based on a report on LBC news: "They say 4 million Sunnis were displaced by the ISIS from the city of Mosul who were not able to return yet".



    It seems that the ISIS invades, kill and displace, and then the Shiite " الحشد الشعبي " liberate after, but the displaced Sunni will remain so, and will not be allowed to return, and the Shiite will take over the land.
    It is the sanitation of the Sunni race/religion and the enforcing of the Shiite crescent ....


    And we still ask who created the ISIS....

    By "we" I mean we the fools.

    The Iranians have proved smarter than the Americans by far.....
    Of course there is no comparison, most of the Americans are the average Joe when it comes to the Middle East and when it comes to religion, including Donald Trump who proved he is an idiot in politics.








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    "Donald Trump who proved he is an idiot in politics" kasarjian

    Indeed a man of no political experience, without his parties backing, against the well oiled political machine of the Clintons, the Democrat Party and most if not all Mainstream Media, got himself elected on pennies compared to the other candidates for President and became the Republican nominee.

    To date, he has picked veteran fighting Generals for his cabinet, who actually know how to deal with ISIS, which I am sure you know as this American knows is Sunni.

    That said this American knows that the Sunni and the Shia have been at each other's throats for over 1,000 years.
    This American knows that the Shia allied Alawites are engaged in a war or Civil War with the Sunni branches of Al-Qaeda or whatever the names they call themselves with the original Syrian Opposition Army Resistance, what few are left of those and ISIS/ISIL.
    This American knows this and so do Trumps Generals, Trump unlike the previous President and the Democrat failure is smart enough to let fighting nonpolitical Generals win this war.
    This will not begin until Obama leaves office.


    The Russians are Asaad allies, HA are Russian and Assad allies, it's curious how the Islamic Republic of Iran a Twelver Shia believing fanatical would create a Sunni monster.
    Why would they do that? Considering the makeup of the organization who among them are Shia-friendly?
    How is it possible that Shia would create a Sunni terror group that fights their own allies.
    Of course, this American is completely oblivious to the ME, he really never understood the history or the Machiavellian ways of the Shia.
    Tell you what champ, Obama plays checkers, the Iranians play chess, Trump will do very well in dealing with the Iranians, in fact, anyone who spent a summer in East Jerusalem and dealt with the ME mind could deal with the Iranians, they are not great thinkers or to be glorified because they put one over on a peanut farmer Jimmy Carter or an incompetent amateur Obama.


    You have long made the case that KSA or its Princes were funding ISIS, in what world would Saudi Sunni princes provide anything to a supposed Shia effort as you claim ISIS/ISIL is.
    The question becomes are all the players playing three-dimensional chess?
    Trump plays Monopoly for real, he's the King of Marvin Gardens, he owns Park Place, Board Walk, and recently acquired Pensylvania Avenue and North Carolina Avenue as well, that gave him the election for 2016, not bad for an "idiot in politics"


    So far I have heard conspiracy here, no facts, no logic, just words., but then what do you expect from an American to understand, this American does.
    Last edited by Samaritan; 27-11-2016 at 05:55 AM.
    Who would claim to be that, who was not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samaritan View Post
    The Russians are Asaad allies, HA are Russian and Assad allies, it's curious how the Islamic Republic of Iran a Twelver Shia believing fanatical would create a Sunni monster.
    Why would they do that? Considering the makeup of the organization who among them are Shia-friendly?
    How is it possible that Shia would create a Sunni terror group that fights their own allies.
    What is said above is another proof you all are idiots fooled by the Iranians....
    Iran main goal is to create a Shiaa enclave from Iran to Lebanon going through Syria and Iraq, if you do not know that then you are an idiot...
    What should Iran do to achieve that? They need to displace the Sunnis badly and change the demography in order to achieve that...
    So they created the ISIS with the help of the Iraqi racist government and Assad baathi government, Why??..cause the ISIS will do the displacement part for them...and the Baathi regime can help by using chemical weapons and by dropping TNT barrels on residential neighborhoods.
    First: to tarnish the Sunni's image world wide, so that when the Sunnis being displaced die in mass numbers, from the use of Chemical and biological weapons, no one feels sympathetic and no one intervenes.
    Second: The Shiaa do not have to displace the Sunnis or empty the land from the Sunnis, the ISIS will do the job for them and will save them from world wide criticism, all that the Shiaa have to do after that, is drive the ISIS out of the land they occupy, and easily refill it with new fresh Shiaa inhabitants.

    So ISIS makes the Shiaa objectives easier to achieve..
    Without the ISIS, the Shiaa of Iraq, Hizballah, the Iranians, the Assad regime, the Russians, all of them have no excuse to attack Zbadani Syria and Idlib, and displace all of the Sunnis be it ISIS or not, no Sunni is allowed to return to Zabadani, on the other hand in Iraq, the ISIS displaced 4 million Sunnis in Mosul, now when the licensed to kill Iraqi Shiaa militia, aka ,الحشد الشعبي, liberated Mosul from the ISIS, they were not allowing any Sunni citizen to come back to their homes or land...
    And the same exact thing is happening to Alepo Syria, they allow the ISIS to enter Alepo first and displace as much Sunnis as they can, and now the Russians, the Baathis, Hizballah, the iranians and their Iraqi militia allies are coming to Alepo to do the same thing like they did in Zabadani, Mosul and many other areas...

    Therefore the Shiaa enclave is in the making and it is making a lot of progress thanks to the ISIS, this Iranian dream is becoming a reality...

    But only idiots do not see it.

    And yes Trump is one of the idiots, and blind too when it comes to the middle East, the Iranians are outsmarting everyone...but too blind to see it..

    Now Walid Fares the Lebanese expert is Trump Middle Eastern political adviser, that was the only wise thing Trump did.

    When the Shiaa enclave is achieved Israel will be the first one to pay for it.....Semitic Duwa is a million times smarter than you, and he knows millions times more than you do, you are just another shallow American.....I hate to hurt your feeling but you are less than the average Joe to be honest with you...
    You were much sharper than that back in 2007 but the problem you are much older now....things are different today than back then, but it seems that your mind is stuck kind of like when a the PC freezes, hope someone will find virus you are hit with.








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    Without the ISIS it would be impossible to displace the Sunnis and create a Shiaa enclave from Iran to Lebanon.








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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasarjian View Post
    Without the ISIS it would be impossible to displace the Sunnis and create a Shiaa enclave from Iran to Lebanon.
    As you know, the Israelis are pro Bachar since his party/sect protects their borders.
    The Israelis want the entire area to be divided by sects and religions; it further justifies their existence as a Jewish state. I also support separating countries by tribes in the Middle East (for another reason), but I can't support it using these extreme methods.

    Here is an analysis written one year ago pretty much summarizing what you have been posting for years.
    Quote Originally Posted by thetower.org
    Recent reports that Iran is supporting ISIS through its funding of Hamas are a reminder that the Islamic Republic has long backed the powerful jihadist group and its predecessors in a variety of ways.
    In 2012, the United States Treasury Department exposed the extensive financial ties between Iran and al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI), the terrorist organization that evolved into ISIS. The generous support Iran afforded ISIS in its formative years was part of a broaderalliance that the Islamic Republic established with al-Qaeda over a decade ago.
    As AQI metastasized across Iraq and eventually became ISIS, Iran sought to position itself at the vanguard of the global effort against the terrorist group, claiming that it was dedicated to beating back its advances. However, Iran and its clients, particularly Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, have notably failed to dislodge ISIS from any significant territory. Former U.S. military intelligence officer Michael Pregent observed in May that Iran and its allied militias in Iraq did not extend themselves to fight the terror group, and concluded that “Iran needs the threat of ISIS and Sunni jihadist groups to stay in Syria and Iraq in order to become further entrenched in Damascus and Baghdad.” A month later, U.S. officials similarly charged Syria with bombing non-Islamist rebels “in support of ISIL’s advance on Aleppo,” which helped the terror group push back Syrian opposition factions that were fighting Assad’s regime.
    Monday’s Ynet report on Iran’s ongoing financial support of Hamas, which the Gaza-based terrorist group partially uses to fund ISIS’s affiliate in the Sinai Peninsula, shed more light on Iran’s strategy of using its proxies to bolster ISIS. Last week, a senior U.S. treasury officialrevealed that Assad is the biggest purchaser of oil from ISIS. Reports surfaced that Iranian agents were also directly selling weapons to ISIS in exchange for oil last year.
    In November, Secretary of State John Kerry noted that Assad “never bombed” ISIS as it captured Raqqa in eastern Syria, and also highlighted Assad’s oil purchases from ISIS. Last week, David Blair, chief foreign correspondent for The Telegraph, wrote that Assad strategically released a number of Islamists from jail during the early stages of the Syrian conflict, a portion of whom later rose to become commanders of ISIS.
    In Iran Is More Deeply Tied To ISIS Than You Think, which was published in the December 2015 issue of The Tower Magazine, Benjamin Decker untangled the complex history behind the alliance between the Islamic Republic and ISIS.
    Abu Musab al-Zarqawi and the rise of al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI), the predecessor to the Islamic State, has been well documented; comparably little attention has been given to the group’s global reach. While the Islamic State was born out of Osama Bin Laden’s global jihad against the West, many overlook the importance of another player in the equation – Iran.
    This may seem surprising given that Iran, the stalwart of the Shi’a Crescent, is currently embroiled in a regional war against the Islamic State in both Syria and Iraq. However, Iran’s Ministry of Intelligence and Security, described as one of the “largest and most dynamic intelligence agencies in the Middle East” by the Pentagon’s Irregular Warfare Support Program, has, over the past 20 years, provided financial, material, technological, and other support services to AQI. The man responsible for fostering this unexpected relationship was Imad Mughniyeh. While his name may not carry the same perceived significance as Osama Bin Laden, Mughniyeh commanded a vast international terror network that included Hezbollah, al-Qaeda, Hamas, and a myriad of others, spanning over five continents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sasuke View Post
    As you know, the Israelis are pro Bachar since his party/sect protects their borders.
    The Israelis want the entire area to be divided by sects and religions; it further justifies their existence as a Jewish state. I also support separating countries by tribes in the Middle East (for another reason), but I can't support it using these extreme methods.

    Here is an analysis written one year ago pretty much summarizing what you have been posting for years.

    Yes you are absolutely right.....Samarita also but of course he'll deny it.....

    http://www.haaretz.com/israel-s-favo...assad-1.352468








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    Where is this Shia enclave physically kasarjian?
    ''We aren't dealing with regime change either unilaterally nor through taking part in political conspiracies'' - Russia FM Lavrov

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    Quote Originally Posted by broscoenRiad View Post
    Where is this Shia enclave physically kasarjian?

    In the making...


    From Tehran to Lebanon going through Iraq and Syria.








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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasarjian View Post
    In the making...


    From Tehran to Lebanon going through Iraq and Syria.
    You are confusing Iranian influence with shias and ''shia crescents''.

    Iraq is the fault of America and Saudi Arabia. I preferred Iraq before American ''democracy'' , i'm sure many Iraqis including shias will feel the same .

    Syria is now more under Iranian influence than before, again the fault of America and Saudi Arabia.

    And why is Syria friends with Iran to begin with ? Because the Gulf Arabs can't be trusted , so friends are sought elsewhere .

    Again the blame/fault for the rise of Iran is primarily with the Arabs and their destructive, duplicitous ways .
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    after all these years and time, i believe more then ever that isis is an expansion of saudi's wahabism ideology.

    wahabism and isis'ism are the exact same doctrine and barbarism. there is no difference. they were created to fight iran, not to support them.

    just as wahabism created the taliban, the same purpose was to be meant with the saudi terrorist group isis- to fight iran and then later russian interests.

    i also wouldn't put it past the american intelligence, whose weapons conveniently ended up in the possession of saudi daesh.

    overall whatever the isis were, im sure they served foreign intelligence purposes.

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